From: NoIDFound@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:46:01 EST Subject: THE FACTS -- READ 'EM AND WEEP -- FROM THE INFORMER PLEASE REPOST! The Facts Read 'Em And Weep From: Terry W. Stough The American Resistance Movement I have known the Informer a.k.a. Big Al, etc. for quite a while, both in person and through the Internet. I consider him to be one of the absolute top alternative legal researchers I know. And when Big Al speaks, I listen. Especially when he speaks of the Fraud which is the United States Constitution -- he has the facts to back him up and has written several excellent books covering only a brief part of his vast research. If you are like me, you have been excited and frustrated over all the legal theories which sound great and just don't work. So after the Informer's latest effort below, I wrote to ask him the solution. The answer isn't very appealing, but I am beginning to realize that there are very few options if we truly want freedom. First, The Informer: ------------------------- To all. The following is taken from Blackstone's Commentary. It includes where the King owns all "public property" in America. But the following shows how and why they can do to you, what they do when claiming you are the States subject and the State is your sovereign. I don't want to hear any arguments to the contrary because, to the State, they do not exist. All arm chair patriots who have not experienced for themselves, an actual battle in a tax case or driver license case, in which they set a precedent for all others to follow, is why this is written. Those that have actual experience of what actually goes on and why you could not enter any exculpatory evidence whatsoever, know exactly what I mean. That is a fact that you should all be made aware, and deal with reality. I can't italicize all that is in here as it does not come across on Juno. I will Capitalize those words below that show the how and why. You can then take it from there. It is only one paragraph but states the whole ball of wax and why I and several others have preached that you never want to be a State or United States citizen claiming some god-awful piece of trash called the constitution. Chap. 8] OF PERSONS. 299-300 XVI. The next branch of the king's ordinary revenue consists in forfeitures of lands and goods for offences; bona confiscata, ('49) as they are called by the civilians, because they belonged to the fiscus or imperial treasury; or, as our lawyers term them, forisfacta; that is, such whereof the property is gone away or departed from the owner. (50) The true reason and only substantial Found of any forfeiture for crimes consists in this; THAT ALL PROPERTY IS DERIVED FROM SOCIETY, being one of those civil rights which are conferred upon individuals, IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT DEGREE OF NATURAL FREEDOM WHICH EVERY MAN MUST SACRIFICE WHEN HE ENTERS INTO SOCIAL COMMUNITIES. If therefore a MEMBER OF ANY NATIONAL COMMUNITY violates the fundamental CONTRACT OF HIS ASSOCIATION, by transgressing the municipal law, HE FORFEITS HIS RIGHT to such privileges as he claims by that contract; and THE STATE MAY VERY JUSTLY RESUME THAT PORTION OF PROPERTY, OR ANY PART OF IT, WHICH THE LAWS HAVE BEFORE ASSIGNED HIM. Hence, in every offence of an atrocious kind, the laws of England have exacted a total confiscation of the movables or personal estate; and in many cases a perpetual, in others only a temporary, loss of the offender's immovables or landed property, and have vested them both in the king, who is the person supposed to be offended, being the one visible magistrate in whom the majesty of the public resides. The particulars of these forfeitures will be more properly recited when we treat of crimes and misdemeanors. I therefore only mention them here, for *the sake of regularity, as a pan of the census regalis; and shall postpone for the present the further consideration of all forfeitures, excepting one species only, which arises from the misfortune rather than the crime of the owner, and is called a deodand.(51) --------------------------------- Oh! You all should read the footnote on this page. In part it states, "[Also concerning those things which are accounted waifs, as of beasts of the plough, where the owner does not appear, and which were formerly the property of the finder by natural right, belong now to the king by the law of nations]." Ok people the Treaty of 1783 [ED -- see information on this treaty below] was drafted under the law of nations which actually was the cause of the creation of the Constitution of the United States with the King still in the passenger seat telling the driver what, why, when, where and how to drive. Then every State which joined the Union was compelled to change their constitutions, which most drafted right at the year 1776, just before and right after the Declaration of Independence. And, the majority of the people then just loved it to no end, just like the stupid people of today. You see it was Patrick Henry and all those other anti- federalists that warned we were under a monarchy if the Constitution was passed and they did not listen. Much is the same today with only a handfull of us preaching the same as over 200 years ago. They all want to be a "member of a social community" and sit on the juries to convict you because, "Why where would we be if you didn't pay taxes like I do?" or "I got to have a license to drive, what makes you any different?" And the court sits back smuggly, under presumption, that you are a "member." Well I hope you see why we never win a major case and why, in a tax case, or for that matter a driver license case, you will never prevail. How many people out there have been before a traffic court claiming they won their case where they did not need a license? Now I dare that same man to go into any state, drive up to any road block or hail over a police officer and say, "You know what, I don't need a driver license and here is my court case that proves it." Now for those that have, have you ever traveled into nazi Jersey and tried that and got away with it? No! I dare you to do it. Just drive up to State police Headquarters in West Trenton and show them that you don't need a driver license. For Tax cases? Well what are so many people in jail for if the people are sovereign? Please I would like to know the answer because I have researched and helped people since 1983 and I have not found one Sovereign yet. All I know is every argument that could be given has been given and they all lost. Reason? Reread the above. The courts work on fiction and presumption that you are a "member" of the community because of "minimum contact" with the State. They always call you a person, resident, individual, or inhabitant don't they? Whether you are registered to vote or not, to them it does not matter. Of course being registered to vote as a "member in a community" that gave up rights to join is your one way ticket to jail. Remember they can't let the "enemy"/slaves--Ryot tenor win his case for then all slaves will try it. I am sincerely disgusted with all the powers to be, in any mode whatsoever and the stupid people who look up to them. Surely you all know of whom I speak. The Informer ----------------------------------------------- [ABOUT THE DEFINITIVE TREATY OF 1783 -- This was THE treaty which ended the "misunderstandings" between America and England. It REQUIRED that we form a Constitution, dictated some of the terms of the Constitution and MOST IMPORTANTLY, set forth that EVERYTHING THE KING AND HIS AGENTS OWNED BEFORE THE WAR, THEY STILL OWNED. This was the WHOLE of the Thirteen Colonies, etc.. The Constitution contained the phrase "and Treaties" specifically to include the 1783 Treaty. This has been thoroughly supported in research by the Informer and others who FIRST BROUGHT THE DEFINITIVE TREATY onto American soil a year or so ago. When the Informer speaks derogatorily of the Constitution as a fraud, he does so with irrefutable documentation.] ------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:03:22 -0500 lawfulgovt@juno.com (Terry W Stough) writes: > > >OK, I know what doesn't work. And I really appreciate the decades of work you have done to try to find the way out. > >Can you sent a response saying what does work and allows someone (or group) to live without interference and without being attacked by the parasites? > >I have seen people try it all and I have never seen anyone truly get out of their system. > >Terry > > ---------------------- Response From The Informer: --------------------- NOTHING WORKS in court. The only success we have had in tax cases is to stop indictments or to cause the IRS to back off a LITTLE, not a lot. NOTHING WORKS to keep the State of United States off your back. People have to wake up and smell the rotten stench that eminates from the bowels of any legislative body before they can decide to either bow down and lick their boots or start popping them off. There is NO IN BETWEEN. I repeat THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN. The sooner we accept the fact that we are enemy/slaves the better off we will be in accepting that we cannot prevail except by V B R, period. Only in my case did I get a letter of apology from the Department of Treasury, a complete vindication of all accounts, fines, penalty, and accurals wiped out to a 0.00 balance from 1982 to August 1998 and four years 95, 96, 97 and 98 where the IRS said "Tax Module not on MF", because all previous years were wiped clean. However, let me or my wife to try to get a job and it all comes crashing down, because we would be up against the W-4, SS, form this, form that, or you don't get hired. So are we really free. HELL NO! > Only in Dewey's case did they pull the Grand Jury from Dewey's case. This is all in administrative process where that is our only attack and that only keeps them at bay till some hot shot IRS gets tired and hauls you ass into court on trumped up charges, sends a swat team out or just plain blows you away. Pete Stern has admitted finally after spending weeks in Washington before all the courts, that indeed I was right all along, we have no courts to go to. And it is Congresses fault. Whoop deee do, it has always been Congresses fault as the stench comes from all BAR NONE as to who their masters are, and it ain't the people or themselves. Big Al -------------------------------- On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:29:25 -0500 lawfulgovt@juno.com (Terry W Stough) writes: > TERRY: In your previous message, you said "we cannot prevail except by V B R, period." What is V B R? > THE INFORMER: VIOLENT BLOODY REVOLUTION TERRY: You should dress (expand, etc.) your response to me up a little and send it to everyone. > THE INFORMER: Hey, I'll leave it up to you to send it. Might sound better coming from you, the person who asked the question. What do you think? Big Al ------------------------------ So what do you think? ==================================== Sent by: Terry W. 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